Sportsman 125 200Kg

At last nights general meeting, there was a discussion relating to classes that will run at OGKRC club days in 2012. Some club members asked if an additional Sportsman 125 class could be raced at the 200kg weight, in other words, Sportsman 125 Super Heavy.

If Sportsman 125 Super Heavy 200kg would be of interest to you, please let us know so it can be considered for club days in 2012.

  • Sportsman 125 Light 160kg
  • Sportsman 125 Heavy 180kg
  • Sportsman 125 Super Heavy 200kg
  • Sportsman 125 Restricted 170kg

29 thoughts on “Sportsman 125 200Kg

  1. Will sportsman 125 restricted still be run and will the rules remain constant, (170kg, mg red tires)?

    • Richard,
      At the time of writing this, there are no changes to Sportsman 125 Restricted.

      There was some discussion at last nights general meeting of running Sportsman 125 Restricted Light 160kg, and Sportsman 125 Restricted Heavy 180kg in 2012, but as all classes, it would be dependant on entry numbers.

      Please attend the next general meeting if you wish to discuss club day classes for 2012.

      • I was planing to race Sportsman 125 Light next year (I need to drop some lead). If you run Sportsman 125 Restricted Light, then I will race Restricted for another year.

        • HI BEN, JUST A LITTLE COMMENT ON RESTRICTED CLASS. RESTRICTED CLASS REPLACED P/ PLATE CLASS WE USED TO HAVE. THE IDEA WAS TO GIVE NEW DRIVERS ENTERING THE SPORT A BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH HIGH POWERED ENGINES & DRIVING SKILLS, GET THEIR LICENCE SIGNED & MOVE UP TO OPEN CLASSES. I BET YOULL GET YOUR EYES OPENED WHEN YOU GET RID OF THE RESTRICTER PLATE MATE.GOOD LUCK.

      • Webmaster, great to hear there was a discussion in relation to the possibility of attempting to try Sportsman 125 restricted light & heavy. Makes for an easier transition to the unrestricted classes if you feel you are ready to go faster. My CRG kart weighs in at 84 kgs with the Fireball engine. I weigh 107 kg in race gear. 191kg ! Thats why I have not raced at the club since May. I met a couple of guys that weekend who were quite a bit heavier than me and I have not seen them race again. The addition of a restricted super heavy might pull them and others like them back to this fantastic sport. I want to go faster, so I will work at losing the Kgs required. I will try my best to get to the next meeting. To all you ex rugby players out there, please get behind this issue, as it benefits both you and the club.

  2. Hi Guys, What a great idea to broaden the Sportsman 125 field, I think as per a fraudulent slip last club day, that maybe a Sportsman O’40s should be considered!

    • Rose,
      Thanks for leaving a comment. At this time, there are no plans for a Sportsman Over 40 class. But you never know what the future holds.

      • GIDDAY, LADIES & GENTLEMAN. I THINK ITS ABOUT TIME THE CLUB OFFERS SPORTMAN O/40s CLASS AT 185kg. THIS WILL ATTRACT ALOT OF OLDER DRIVERS FROM CLUBMAN O/40s ( UPGRADE TO ELECTRIC START) , ROTAX O/40s & RISTRICTED CLASS TO GET BACK INTO RACING AGAIN. SOME THING SIMILAR TO THIS, I SUGGESTED LAST YEAR WAS NOT ACCEPTED, BUT WERE RACING SPORTSMAN NOW. CLUB CAN SEE THERES DRIVERS INTERESTED IN THIS CLASS SO WHY NOT GIVE IT A GO. SOME OF US OLDER CLUB MEMBERS MIGHT COME BACK RACING AGAIN.

        • HELLO DRIVERS & CLUB COMITTEE, JUST A LITTLE ADDITION TO MY PROPOSEL FOR SPORTMAN O/40s OR SPORTSMAN SUPER/HEAVY WEIGHTS — ( 185kg — 190kg ) THIS MIGHT ENCOURAGE HEAVY DRIVERS TO PUT A BIT OF LEAD & RACE THIS CLASS ALSO.JUST A THOUGHT TO GET US DRIVERS RACING AGAIN .BETTER FOR THE CLUB.

  3. Sportsman Super Heavy – I’m interested, and if I don’t get any lighter over Christmas (and who does) then I’ll enter this class after moving through Sportsman R..

  4. Sportsman Super Heavy sensational !!! I run at 190kg and am presently taking a break from Karting as i try and get my weight down. Sportsman superheavy would have me back karting in a flash.

  5. HI ANDREW YUILL, DONT GET EXCITED. I HAVNT JOINED THE CLUB YET. WAITING TO SEE IF THE CLUBS GOING TO OFFER THE SPORTMANS SUPER/HEAVY CLASS (190kg) AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS ALOT OF DRIVERS INTERESTED IN THIS CLASS AND ARE WAITING TO SEE THE OUTCOME. BETTER THAN SEEING ABOUT 6 TO 8 LEOPARD DRIVERS ON CLUB DAYS ON THE TRACK. EVEN ALL STAR MEETING LAST WEEKEND. I HOPE THE CLUB WILL MAKE DECISION WHATS BENEFICIAL TO THE CLUB.

  6. Well here’s my 2 cents worth – I have raced super heavy for years and numbers are screwed, have been for some time. Why? Because that’s what the powers that be want – no more clubman. So what do I do? Continue to race with 4 or 5 in a class? Or move to a class where I can jump in and push a button or turn a key and hope like hell that it starts? And if it does start I cross my fingers and toes the clutch holds up and I don’t get a coolant leak. I would love a dollar for every time I have seen someone stuck on the out grid ‘cos they couldn’t start the thing, but hey it’s a great class right? TAG classes do not teach anyone how to drive in my opinion. You spin off, you go again, unless you are bogged. It’s raining, so what? Why learn how to drive in the wet if I know I can rely on that clutch (if it still works) to get me going again. So what are the options for anyone in my position? Retire would be one, which I am contemplating. The other would be the Sportsman Super Heavy class if that eventuates. But at what cost????? Not everyone owns their own business to write off the costs of karting, nor do they have sponsorship that allows them to spend a heap of money on changing classes and being competitive. Some people just scrape enough money to have a race once a month in a kart that requires little maintenance, that doesn’t require clutches, starters etc. I think the death knell has rung for clubman, and in a way I hope the whole karting industry suffers as a result. Take ya push button engines and shove ’em. I would rather sell everything or just go for a drive on a weekend for a bit of fun. After all, that’s what it’s about isn’t it? But that’s only my opinion, and this possibly isn’t the place for it!!

    • Hi Mick,

      Well put , i don’t know if TAG classes teaching anyone how to drive is relevant too super heavy number .opinion. But you are dead right this sportsman
      is a load of S— There has always been a performance class in club day racing

  7. Pup what I meant was that super heavy numbers, along with clubman numbers in general, have dwindled since the introduction of tag classes at club days. A lot of former clubman drivers have either changed classes (if they have the cash) or have given it away altogether due to lack of cash etc, or in the case of super heavy drivers – not being able to make the weight. (Which is why Glenn Cornell is so happy!!)

    • Hi Mick
      Personally I think sportsman Is a rip off . The main thinking behind sportsman (apart from its sexist name just shows how far behind the time Vka \ aka really are ) was to create a opportunity for all members to race . I.e. small clubs that don’t have number to run standalone classes they can merge thus giving everyone a run , This was the spirit behind sportsman all good intentions.
      May be we as a club could look at super heavy numbers give 125 sportsman @207kg and clubman super heavy @ 180kg ago 27 kg would make for almost the same lap time . have a look on my laps
      Sportsman heavy v clubman light
      But somehow money takes over , Remo,IKd, DPE love all this change ( should i say Big buck$ in their hands) if we karters where syndical one might think they get together planning next rule change.
      These promoters don’t give a toss about local clubs &club day racers. I have raced leopard since day one
      Now buy having sportsman Vka \aka & Remo may as well say “thanks pup for all the karts, tyres, motors and other stuff Etc you have bought over the years but we as promoters\suppliers aren’t making as much profit from you as we would like so we will change rules . And by the way even though you have supported us from conception we as promoters\suppliers feel that you and your club day mates are not worthily to run on correct tyres for motor& class. But we will still take your hard earned money “
      If sports man is to continue then it should a state\ national class getting rid rotax ,& leopard
      By creating cik, pro tour, etc All this has achieved is more race events for same number or karters.
      As a sport our number have not grown by many in recent years but there is more events ??

      So Mick I understand how you feel and like you hope to enjoy racing our club days for years to come.
      General meeting are held @ clubhouse every month this is where our club talks then vote.I encourage all Members to cone provide input.

  8. Well hi there everyone, have we realised that the popuation in general is getting heavier and that as a sport we are ignoring not only adults 110 kg and above (for CSH), 100 kg and above (for 125 classes) but juniors 80 kg and above, many of which have no useful class to go to if they can’t gain early entry to senior classes. The low weight limits for Jmax and Junior Clubman make them even less attractive than Junior Heavy which is a shame given the commitment shown by the clubs to offering Jmax with its tighter control on engine varience and halfway ok tyres. If it or Junior Clubman were offered at heavier weights maybe they would be more popular.
    The idea of the sportsman class to combine similar classes on the same tyres is not new (TAG?) but in an environment where every single entry is needed to form a class on club day where did the weight differences which evened up the tag class go. How is it that those with RL Leopards which needed a 5kg weight advantage over an X30 last year don’t need it this year? Are there a bunch of potential competitors out there with RLs who don’t bother to show up now? They must be somewhere, cos there aren’t many on race day.
    We need classes for heavier drivers whether it be Sportsman Superheavy and / or Clubman Superheavy (preferably both). Should / could we as a club offer Clubman Superheavy at a heavier weight to attract more competitors?
    To make club day racing a little cheaper and easier limit the use of wets to only Junior classes (or don’t use them at all).

    See you all at the Class Titles
    Regards Mal Hunt Superheavy #84

  9. As someone looking to re-enter the sport of go-karting. I am most interested in finding out as much info as possible. I think I will fit in quite well with the “rugby 125 TAG” class?
    I am looking at the CRG with the fireball engine set up as this seems to be quite resonably priced.
    Can any one offer me some advice?
    Many Thanks
    Chris

    • Hi Chris, good to hear of someone getting back into it. Maybe visit 2 or 3 kart shops and get their ideas on which engine and frame combination will best suit your needs. Bear in mind that Kosmic, Tonykart, F.A. Kart are pretty much the same thing (made by OTK) with different branding (and appear to be the dominant chassis in 125 classes.) Come down and watch the class titles this weekend, check out the grid for the final in any of the 125 classes. The first three rows will be almost all OTK chassis, generally with Leopard X30 engines. Also don’t forget about Clubman Superheavy as the karts can weigh as little as 70 kg as opposed to around 82 kg for a 125 kart.
      See you at the track.
      Regards Mal Hunt Superheavy #84

  10. Hi All,
    as a previous OGKRC member , CSH driver and a Leopard/Tag heavy driver. I have had a few years away from the sport due to time and monetary constraints. I have wanted to get back in for next year but the numbers in CSH are so poor and at 110kg if I was to race tag giving away 20kg is just not an option. I think in general the whole class stucture needs and overhaul. If there was a tag/sportsman 125 @ 200kg. I would certainly be very interested. but then if its only at a club day and I cant run it at say the golden power series or country series. thats not much good either. Ill keep an ear to the ground.

  11. Hi talking to Adam today and he said the club would establish a Sportsman superheavy class in 2012 if we can get 8 entries. If you are interested and available to race in 2012 please indicate on this chat forum – if you haven’t done so already.

    Cheers
    Glenn

  12. Hi All
    The problem in karts started in 1997 with water cooled Arc’s. Just for history sake we used to have over 300 entrys at club level before that. 2 fields of clubman light and heavy, avarage of 25 CSH, 15 twin clubmans and only small fields of reed light and heavy and thats the seniors only. Then the admin got sucked in regarding Arcs and it went down hill just like it is now. The population has grown our sport has shrunk. My boy has just started in karts, and as soon as he older and can be entered into other forms of motor sport and still wants to drive I will move him on out of the AKA admin junket thats what all your fees get put in to CIK and national confrences maybe a holiday to Darwin next year. With video confrence why do we need to fly admin people around the country?
    I feel for the guys & girls that are stuck with the VKA & AKA due to money. I have moved on after 18 years on and off in the sport to cars and wish I did it in 1997. I am loving racing again under CAMS.
    Any way will see you all at the track as a father pitting for his son.
    Regards
    John Stanic

  13. Interesting reading all of the above, if I read it correctly we will have for 2012, restricted light, heavy and super heavy, sportsman light, heavy, super heavy and super heavy O/40?
    Clubman is dying according to Mick and the world is getting heavier according to Mal, biggest class over the last couple of months “Clubman light”?
    As for next year the committee will be looking at what classes we will run and we try and have input from the members, my count above so far is 6 Sportsman SH drivers not enough. If you guys really want this then come to the next general meeting and show commitment for your class to get it up, other wise the committee will decide.
    You also have to be reasonable because at the moment you want to run in the vicinity of 16 classes so we will be back to 8 laps again. I think we need to look at class structure and have 12 lap races.
    See you all at the General meeting December the 13th.

  14. OAKLEIGH HAS TO HAVE A 200KG CLASS SPORTSMAN SUPER HEAVY 125 ROTAX / LEOPARD . THATS FOR ME TO STAY AS A LOCAL MEMBER .

  15. YES I AGREE OAKLEIGH NEEDS A 200KG SPORTSMAN SUPER HEAVY 125 LEOPARD / ROTAX CLASS IN 2012 . AS THIS IS THE CLOSEST RACE TRACK FOR MANY RACER’S .

  16. Obviously a lot of passion on this topic. I’ve only been a member for a year now and have been racing 125R. From the prospective of a new member – one of the frustrations, (which has improved in recent club days), is the running of so many different classes with between 3-6 karts. It turns the day into a 12 hour minimum, which is not likely to be possible for all families. Therefore – i think that it seems strange to split 125R into 2 or 3 separate weight classes. Restricted should be for people to get a bit of experience before moving to unrestricted classes or for racers that are just after a bit of casual fun – therefore the 170kg middle ground weight seems appropriate. For unrestricted, light and heavy makes sense – but rather than a separate super heavy, why not try heavy at 190kg or even 195kg weight for club days. Then there wont be more classes than numbers require. In terms of senior clubman classes – it seems to me that the numbers don’t warrant separate classes for heavy and super heavy, (that might make some angry, but in the latest club days when these classes have been combined the day runs well). Also, not having too many senior weight classes means that the club can continue to run more junior classes which is probably more important for families at club days. If the club runs every single senior class that has been suggested in the comments on this thread – then I’m imagining that some junior classes would have to be sacrificed to fit into a day, (a bit sad for the kids).

    Anyway – thats my 2 cents worth.

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